More closed-mind evangelists

My tag surfer has Buddhism as a tag to catch posts I’d like to read. Of course, so much Evangelism shows up because they want to tell us how wrong we are. What is worse is, the blog which showed up today doesn’t allow comments. Really folks, You must be very secure in your belief that no one can, uhm, question?, ask or comment?, or try to correct some untrue or misunderstood information? – or is that just your closed-mindedness showing? Do you folks read other genuinely accurate posts on understanding Buddhism? Rather than merely pronouncing, are you so confident in your self-affirming identity that you can’t talk about it?

21 comments

  1. You didn’t directly. Do you then believe Christianity, along with its claim of exclusivity(John 14:6), is correct?

  2. What do you think of this?

    Jesus and the Eightfold Path

    Right Views: Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life (John 14:6), and there is salvation in no one else (Acts 4:12).

    Right Aspiration: Fights and quarrels come from selfish desires and wrong motives (Jas. 4:1-3); right desires and motives honor God (1 Cor. 10:31).

    Right Speech: A day of judgment is coming when God will hold men accountable for every careless word they have spoken (Matt. 12:36).

    Right Conduct: The one who loves Jesus must obey Him (John 14:21), and those who live by God’s wisdom will produce good acts/fruit (Jas. 3:17).

    Right Livelihood: God will care for those who put Him first (Matt. 6:31,33), and all work must be done for God’s approval (2 Tim. 2:15).

    Right Effort: Like runners in a race, followers of Christ must throw off every hindrance in order to give Him their best efforts (Heb. 12:1-2).

    Right Mindfulness: The sinful mind cannot submit to God’s law (Rom. 8:7), and disciples of Christ must orient their minds as He did (Phil. 2:5).

    Right Contemplation: The secret of true success, inner peace, self-control, and lasting salvation is submission to Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord and setting your heart and mind on things above where He now sits in glory waiting to bring the present order of sin and suffering to an end (Col. 3:1-4).

  3. I was just trying to present Jesus in a way I thought you might find interesting as it relates to Buddhism.

  4. Well, thank you.

    Have you read “Living Buddha, Living Christ” by Thich Nhat Hanh? Look it up. I think you might enjoy it.

  5. I like what Justin had to say on here. I came to your site because of the comment you left on mine about Truth verses Logical Fallacies. Please expound on this. I have read through some of your posts and see that you are strong in your beliefs as a Buddhist. I have had many friends in Buddhism before. I always enjoy learning more. Please let me know what you mean by your statement and how we can better learn from each other.

  6. I was referring to Justin’s take on the eightfold path. Thank you for sharing an article with me, but honestly I can find plenty of articles on my own. I would rather here about your personal experience and where you have found fault with what I believe. If you would like to continue conversing, I don’t mind as long as it’s two people discussing and learning from each other. Not two people comparing articles from the internet. I can do that on my own. Thank you! I hope you continue to learn!

    • Justin pasted that from somewhere else – an article from the internet .. speaking of hearing about genuine personal experience ..

      A search for the truth is one thing. Thinking you have the truth, a priori, that your conclusion is correct and allowing that to undermine the logic of your arguments is a different thing. I urge you to study up on Logical Fallacies, not dismiss the article reference. It will make your search for the truth a bit more difficult, but you’ll actually find some.

      Your piece commits at least two fairly common ones: The Appeal to Authority (because the Bible says so), and a version of the False Dilemma (your set of options of what Jesus must be).

  7. I have taken the time to answer your reply on my blog in length. I will post a reply to this later. Right now I’m headed out for some errands.

  8. I have posted a reply to your comment. As far as your above response to the truth.

    Well, I have looked at the article about Logical Fallacies a few times.

    I think it’s time for you to prove to me why the Bible is false. Prove to me whey Jesus claims are false. Prove to me why my beliefs in Jesus are a logical fallacy.

    Have you ever heard of Lee Stroebel? He was an Atheist who set out to prove that there wasn’t a God. His book “Case for Faith” is really good and asks some of the most difficult questions. You might enjoy it.

  9. “I think it’s time for you to prove to me why the Bible is false.”

    Logical Fallacy in your proposition: Burden of proof, Appeal to Ignorance. and Proving a Negative:

    http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/richard_carrier/theory.html

    “Prove to me whey Jesus claims are false.”

    More of the same.

    I don’t have a problem with what Jesus said. I have a problem with what people claim Jesus said. I can accept Jesus on-the-ground instructions about compassionate behaviour, but I don’t need to believe anything at all about Him being divine just as I discount any stories about Buddhas mystical powers as being a conflation and metaphor.

    “Prove to me why my beliefs in Jesus are a logical fallacy.”

    Your belief if Jesus is not a Logical Fallacy. Your arguments about why you believe in Jesus are.

  10. In a post entitle “Black Rain”:
    http://mistifier.wordpress.com/2009/04/22/spirituality-vs-religion/
    Mistifier says:

    “I went to a meeting tonight. A group of Christians learning the ways of other religions. There was a Buddhist there, explaining his faith, or lack of it if I may. The “Me” syndrome, that’s what I got out of it, no faith what so ever except in one self. The feeling it left me with was almost sorrow, …. How does one go through life with no meaning, no truths, no faith, no spirit just free will?”

    After two days -dougrogers April 23, 2009 at 9:25 am Your comment is awaiting moderation – my comments haven’t been posted:

    “It’s hard to say what he means or understand – without knowing him myself – and it is difficult to say that you understand what he means or feels. This is, after all, a hearsay reporting.

    Simply, I don’t believe he 1) understands Buddhism, 2) he reported Buddhism accurately, or that you understand 3) what he reported except through your own filters.


    You’ve set up a straw man to knock down. 
Is he a layman? A Monk? A Buddhist teacher? What are his credentials, if you will. He is self taught? from books? Is there a Buddhist temple in your area?


    You can conclude what you like based on what you feel or believe, but don’t make erroneous conclusions from lack of evidence or fact.



    In fact what you describe as your understanding seems more of a Nihilistic Narcissism. That is not Buddhism.”

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